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164 Light (Afrika) Division – Box 007

007 164 Lt Afrika

I originally built 164 Lt Afrika Division with German Trucks and attached 2cm Flak from 609 Abteilung

Coming across a snippet on one of the many WWII Forums (Fora?) that 164 Light (Afrika) Division arrived in theatre without any transport sent me back to my NQM division to re-evaluate it. The Division was shipped from Crete, where it had been building fortifications, less its 440 Infantry Regiment. It collected 125 Panzer Grenadier Regiment, which had been fighting in Africa since the start of the campaign. The division acquired transport by helping itself to captured British stocks.

As I had equipped the three regiments with Opel Blitz trucks, it made sense to just swap them with trucks from the British boxes, which now have some captured trucks of their own. I had to root about a bit to find enough open-backed trucks to do this, but here they are. I kept some Blitzs for 125 Regiment, reasoning that they were already in theatre, so probably already had German transport :

Box 025 164 Lt Afrika showing captured British trucks

The 125 Regiment was disbanded in January 1943. The other 2 regiments got the remaining men of 125. 382nd Panzergrenadier Regiment had just 2 battalions, the 433rd had the normal 3 battalions. Artillery Regiment 220, had just 2 Abteilungen and 1 (schw) battery.

Panzeraufklärungsabteilung 220 [Recce] (renamed 164 in spring 1943) had 5 companies:
1. Komp Panzerspäh (
Recce)
2. Komp : Aufklärungs,Kradschützen and SPW platoons
3. Komp : Heavy company
4. Komp : Stug-battery
5. Komp : Stab und versorgungs Kompanie

Flakbatterie mot 220 consisted of 4 8.8cm Flak*

Panzerjägerabteilung 220 : 3 Pzjg Komp ( of which one was added 1-43, consisting of pak auf Skoda-chassis) and 1 Flak Komp auf SFL

Pionierbatallion 220 : 3 Pio Komp, 1 Schwere Werfer Zug (mot)”

EricV on https://www.feldgrau.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3677 accessed 17/11/22 (corrected for German grammar, spelling and unit designation consistency). Unfortunately, Eric does not cite his source, but cites two battalions each for 125 and 382 Regiments, and three for 433. The orbat suggests that 220 Pioneer Battalion had a heavy (Nebel)werfer platoon. I have found nothing to suggest that this equipment was taken to North Africa, much less that it was ever used operationally.

*Interestingly, Bender and Law (1973) give the following orbat, which may be where the 8.8cm Flak comes from in 609 Flak Battalion:

“Divisional Staff 125th (mot) Panzer Grenadier Regiment

382nd (mot) Panzer Grenadier Regiment

433rd (mot) Panzer Grenadier Regiment

707th Heaviest Infantry Gun Company (150mm IG guns)

708th Heaviest Infantry Gun Company (150mm IG guns)

220nd (mot) Artillery Regiment

609th (mot) Flak Battalion

220th (mot) Panzer Pioneer Battalion

220th (mot) Reconnaissance Battalion

220th (mot) Signals Company

220th (mot) Medical Company

220th (mot) Ambulance Platoon

220th (mot) Maintenance Company

220th (mot) Divisional Supply Detachment

220th (mot) Bakery Company

220th (mot) Butcher Company

220th (mot) Administration Bureau

220th (mot) Military Police Detachment

220th (mot) Field Post Office”

Bender, R.J., & Law, R.D., Uniforms, Organization and History of the Afrikakorps, R.J.Bender, Publisher, USA, 1973.

This .pdf commenting on Rommel’s command style, offers a clue to the nebulous and shifting German orbats at the time : https://core.ac.uk/download/pdf/36736361.pdf It is a long, but interesting read if you have an hour to spare.

Nierhorster shows 609 Flakbatallion at Army level armed with 2cm Flak on 23 Oct 1942, 220 Artillery Regiment: 12 x 10.5cm howitzer, 8 7.5cm Mountain Gun, with no mention of 8.8cm Flak

He gives 220 Panzerjager Abteilung as being wheeled with 5cm towed guns and all three regiments being wheeled (125, 382 and 433).

http://www.niehorster.org/011_germany/42-oob/42-10-23/div_afr_164.html accessed 17/11/22.

Nafziger (2000, pp. 176-177) gives the orbat for the invasion of Greece as 5cm Pak.

609 Flak Abteilung was attached to 164 Light (Afrika) Division in August 1942, and later in 1943 to 21st Panzer Division in Tunisia, (uncredited post on Feldgrau)

Feldgrau gives this helpful summary of designations (corrected for German grammar, spelling and unit designation consistency. Note that Batallion is correct for German spelling):

“LUFTWAFFE =
> le. (or leichte) Flak-Abt.
> gem. (or gemischte) Flak-Abt.
> s. (or schwere) Flak-Abt.

HEERES =

H (or Heeres) Flak (or Flakartillerie)-Abt.
Fla-Bataillon (or Btn.)

Krupp Kfz 70 with 2cm FlaK 30 and 3 crew BPM, PSC "Protze"

Elsewhere in Feldgrau, one post gives the 600 series battalions as Army (Heer) units. I have elected to show all 8.8cm Flak as present only at Army level for NQM CSO (Corps-scale) orbats. There were only a few of them, and Wehrmacht lower-level Flak aimed to be self-propelled. Of course, that does not necessarily mean that they always achieved their aim.

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A Proportionate view of German Armour (2)

Panzer Fleet 1943

Warning! Self indulgent post and sums follow!

In building my German tank fleet (a rather grand name for a pile of toys in a box), I have been trying to keep things in proportion. As a reminder, the proportions in the table below below represent the approximate German tank strengths at the peak of midwar production.

15 cm sIG 33 (mot S) auf PzKpfw I Ausf B

The last surviving 15 cm sIG 33 (mot S) auf PzKpfw I Ausf Bs (above) soldiered on until July 1943 on the Eastern Front. This Skytrex model was kindly gifted by YesthatPhil.

The rough overall proportion of major hull types taken year by year on  a 1: 600 ratio are roughly:

  • 1942: 1 Pz 38(t): 5 PzIII : 2PzIV
  • 1943: 2 Pz 38(t): 5 PzIII : 10 PzIV: 3 PzV: 1 PzVI.
  • 1944: 4 Pz 38(t): 3 PzIII : 7 PzIV: 6 PzV: 1 PzVI.
  • 1945: 2 JagdPz 38(t): 2 StugIIIG
PzIIs PzJaegerII and SPGs

QRF and Syborg PzIIs, BPM PzJägerII, BPM Wespes and FoW SiGII Grille

As a working assumption, I have started with 50%  losses of the prior year , allowing for cannibalised spares and repairs, having gone down the rabbit hole of statistical claims and counter claims, and emerged little the wiser at the end.

PSC Pz38(t), QRF and PSC Marders, SdKfz 139s and 138s, SiG 33 Grille Ausf K, H.

PSC Pz38(t), QRF and PSC Marders, SdKfz 139s and 138s, BPM and QRF SiG 33 Grille Ausf K, H.

I’m not proposing to amass a fleet in full proportion to actual Axis production, but it’s nice to know what my model totals look like, about 0.017%, or a ratiod 10% of German production:

PSC (5) Zvezda (1) and PP (3)PzIIIs

PSC (5) Zvezda (1) and PP (3) PzIIIs

Model Built 1942 Built 1943 Total 1943 My Fleet War Total to 1945
Pz I 0 0 0  1 SPG
6
PzII 1 0 0.5 2 6
Marder II 5 2 4.5 1 7
Wespe 0 5 5 2 6
 All PzI/II Chassis 6 7 10  6 25
Pz 38(t) 2 0 1  1 14
Marder III 139 3 0 1.5 2 3
Marder III 138 1 8 8.5 2 12
Grille 0 2 2 2 5
Hetzer 0 0 0   30
 All 38(t) Chassis 6 10 13   64
Pz III A-F 0 0 0 3 5
Pz III G-J1 2 0 1 3 24
Pz III J2-M 20 0 10 3 20
Pz III N 4 3 5   7
Pz III (f) 0 1 1   1
StuG III A-E 1 0 0.5 1 8
StuG III F-G 7 30 33.5 2 55
StuH 42 0 2 2 1 12
 All PzIII Chassis 34 36 53   132
Pz IV A-F1 1 0 0.5 3 9
Pz IV F2-J 9 30 34.5 3 74
StuG IV 0 10 10 1 11
Jagd Pz IV 0 7 7   7
Jagd Pz IV 70 0 8 8   12
Sturm Pz IV 1 2 2.5   3
Hornisse 0 3 3   5
Hummel 0 4 4 1 7
Mobelwagen 0 2 2   2
Wirbelwind 0 0 0 1 1
 All PzIV Chassis 11 66 71.5   131
Pz V 0 18 18 1 58
Jagd Pz V 0 2 2   4
 All PzV Chassis 20 20   62
Tiger I 1 6 6.5 1 13
Sturm Tiger 0 0 0   2
Jagd Tiger 0 0 0   1
 All PzVI Chassis 1 6 6.5   16
Tiger II 0 0 0   5
Ferdinand 0 1 1   1
0 1 1   6
Total 58 126 155 37 374
PSC StuGIIIs, StuH, StuGIV

PSC StuG IIIs, StuH, StuG IV

PSC (3), Skytrex (3) Pz IVs; BPM Hummel, RoCo Ostwind

PSC (3), Skytrex (3) Pz IVs; BPM Hummel, RoCo Ostwind

Skytrex Pz V and PSC Pz VI

Skytrex Pz V and PSC Pz VI

If you have read this far, then yes, it is an excuse (challenge) for you to to put all your Panzers on parade. I’m easily impressed! 🙂

YesthatPhil has already done it last April.

Sources :

  1. Thomas L. Jentz and Hilary Louis Doyle (2011). Panzer Tracts No.23 – Panzer Production from 1933 to 1945. Panzer Tracts. pp. 60–65.
  2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_armored_fighting_vehicle_production_during_World_War_II
  3. https://www.tankarchives.ca/2014/03/losses-vs-repairs.html [Accessed 25/5/20], who states that repairs kept the 1st Guards Tank Army at 33-50% strength (550-200 tanks) during a two week period that would have seen their strength dwindle to zero.
  4. https://www.tankarchives.ca/2013/07/cheating-at-statistics-part-3.html [Accessed 25/5/20]
  5. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equipment_losses_in_World_War_II#Land [Accessed 25/5/20]

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